Is it true that the nonbinary fad is fading among the young generation?

I don’t typically interact with young people, but I’ve been reading some message boards with discussions by parents of kids who are in middle school and high school now. According to them, the current generation of teenagers is by and large rolling their eyes at the whole gender identity/multiple gender/pronoun fad and not taking it seriously. These parents are also saying that their kids don’t want to interact or be friends with the pronoun kids, primarily because they are exhausting to be around (many are changing their pronouns multiple times a week).

You could probably track the trend by looking at the sales data of blue and green steam

I hope it's true. So many "non-binary" people are just doing it for attention.

R3 The kids are doing it, as all generations do, to find something different that's 'their' thing. Their misguided, no boundaries applied, no work ethic instilling, entitled, brat raising parents made things worse by encouraging this you're a special flower, whose feelings make the world go round' mentality, and they should be financially charged, or have their tax write off revoked if they're producing and enabling crotch-to-couch fruit.

It's just unfortunate that adults in decision making positions, mostly in school or therapeutic settings were stupid enough to fuel that fire by encouraging and normalizing that fuckery.

R4

[quote]It's just unfortunate that adults in decision making positions, mostly in school or therapeutic settings were stupid enough to fuel that fire by encouraging and normalizing that fuckery.

Not to mention the mainstream media. They’re not helping either, and considering the problem this country has been having with the far right and conspiracy theories, it doesn’t help when we want the mainstream media to be trusted and then they push this nonsense.

It still seems to be a thing. One distant relative 20 something is transitioning to male while her boyfriend is becoming a woman. Such a lot of trouble and when complete, they’re getting married. Did anything that crazy happen ten or twenty years ago?

[quote]The kids are doing it, as all generations do, to find something different that's 'their' thing.

John Waters recently said that every young generation needs to find something to get on elders' nerves, and in this case, it worked.

R6 I think it’s a perfect storm. First, you have parents who spoiled their kids rotten and pampered their every whim. Then add social media and all the insanity there. Then on top of that add the struggling news media who will push anything for clicks, and the era of woke where everyone is terrified to push back on anything. How could this not have happened?

I wonder if breast cancer rates will be lower in ten years now that a whole generation of women has had their tits hacked off for attention?

R9 I almost fell off the sofa laughing at that.

I work at a company that has a lot of employees in their early-mid twenties working entry level jobs as sales reps or IT geeks or junior software engineers. The sales kids are mostly what you’d expect, douchy bros and tarted up blondes. Especially since the company went fully remote though, a plurality of the young IT and software hires are trans or pronoun announcers or blue haired autists. In my experience, they seem heavily concentrated in the Pacific Northwest and the plains states.

I really hope OP’s observation comes to bear, because I have had to avoid any professional interaction whatsoever with the pronoun brigade. I’m inclined to be politically correct, and I make a conscious effort use inclusive language, particularly around well-meaning trans people. But the young nonbinary set are completely impossible. Pronouns aside, they will find something to be outraged about and complain to HR. I’m too old to walk on eggshells so I avoid the heck out of them.

R11 I stay away too. But one has horrendous body odor and the talks to themself so it’s not hard.

It's not a fad, dipshit.

Not even 1% of the population identifies as non-binary.

R11 sounds like a dumb Trumpster redneck. 15 years ago the Republicans freaking out over "the pronoun brigade" thought their lives would end if gay people got married or served in the military

Your IQ must very low to buy into GOP propaganda

The stupid redneck people who claim tons of "kids today" identify as non-binary don't have the data to back up their claimsm

OP thinks random message boards are a scientific study. What a moron.

I notice OP doesn't even name these message boards. Probably because they are right-wing propaganda sites.

R13 the pronoun thing wasn’t even around 15 years ago and certainly has nothing to do with gays.

I'm in Portland and every single day I see trans kids or 20-somethings - they are everywhere. Portland is the exception and not the rule (a lot of young trans come here because they know they'll be welcome) but I'd call it a fad. They don't always put much effort into it and I suspect a lot of them won't keep it up for long. They just want a label to belong to.

I'm a teacher in TX. No, it's still going strong.

R16 I assume by trans you mean fake trans, not the trans who actually transition.

Gen Z is a tad odd that way. I know many of them that are all nb special snowflake types but also alot that roll their eyes at it and seem over it. To me it's a bit of a split generation.

[quote] many are changing their pronouns multiple times a week).

Sure Jan

The non binary/trans fads are only happening in the coastal cities. Most fly over states don't have this happening at nearly the rates it's happening on the coasts. It's mostly because the cities are liberal and the parents are making up for all the homophobia they witnessed growing up in the 80's and 90's. It will fade eventually and then the lawsuits will start once these little girls and boys grow up and realize that no one stopped them from cutting off their body parts when they were too young to even realize the long term effects of doing so.

R16 A trans person I know moved there. Went from having an excellent job to doing spa work

[quote] Did anything that crazy happen ten or twenty years ago?

Sure, R6. On the daytime soaps.

That and people have had it with the nonsense

The 'non-binary' nonsense is what irked me the most. You can't define yourself as 'non'. The lack of a definition is what they think makes them so unique - no, it doesn't.

It just makes you a drama queen.

[quote]The 'non-binary' nonsense is what irked me the most. You can't define yourself as 'non'. The lack of a definition is what they think makes them so unique - no, it doesn't.

And separating people into 'binary' and 'nonbinary' just creates ... a binary system.

On the staff page of a youthful company, one worker with a gender ambiguous names listed their pronouns as

She / they / him

Is she / are they / is he leaving things flex?

R27, how can they's coworkers not fuck that one up?

That reminds me of when I worked in the Plano Costco food court a few centuries ago. I worked with a 22 year-old Muslim Kurd immigrant and a middle-aged black American woman who was a Muslim "convert" (who covered her head but showed her tits). They decided to have two different pizza cutters-- one that was halal and one that was haram, or, used to cut the pepperoni pizzas.

Both pizza cutters hung on the wall in the same place, except one was on a nail on the left and one was on a nail just to the right. The cutters were identical, both big black-handled foodservice pizza cutters. When we were slammed, they seemed to have nothing better to do than to stand there and watch other workers to see whether they used the halal cutter on pepperoni, or the haram cutter on non-pepperoni pizza. They'd make a BIIIIG fucking deal about it if someone used the "wrong" cutter, hollering in front of customers, and we had no choice but to apologize like little bitches. Obviously I got the fuck out of there!

Their "religion" was the centerpiece to their identity, since they were losers with nothing else going for them besides having babies and slicing food court pizza. I think it's similar with the nbs in that generation. It's something that makes them feel like somebody, because they have failed at other aspects in their lives.

[quote]It's not a fad, dipshit.

Yes, it is totally a fad, idiot. And I can only hope that it will pass soon.

I teach at a community college and these kids are so wrapped up in this nonsense - and you can see all the adolescent insecurities as these kids are so desperately trying to fit in by being 'non-conforming'. No irony there. I say adolescent because I'd expect this from middle school or young high schoolers - but the young twenty-somethings in college are the ones that I see behaving this way. (Maybe part of this has to do with COVID - these are the kids who had their high-school years totally disrupted by the pandemic and it clearly has stunted their emotional and psychological development).

They can't even keep it straight themselves - I had a student who needed to write a bio for a printed program. She identified as they/them yet alternated between they and she throughout her little bio. In class, she was a little fan girl - gushing about boys, took 'notes' with pink and red pens, binder covered with Hello Kitty-style stickers, etc. Nothing non-binary about her.

Pretty typical, actually.

I’ve got a niece and nephew in their teens. I see them most weeks and always chat to them. I’ve never once heard them mention non binary or trans.

I think it’s overblown by the internet.

With kids its just the new AV club, or student librarians, they need something they can get into. The cool, attractive kids give zero fucks.

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